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	<title>Comments on: NUJ multi-media commission: &#8216;publishers don&#8217;t understand the web&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: Completetosh.com, by Neil McIntosh &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Marking up the NUJ's new media verdict</title>
		<link>http://blogs.pressgazette.co.uk/fleetstreet/2007/10/19/nuj-multi-media-commission-publishers-dont-understand-the-web/#comment-92154</link>
		<dc:creator>Completetosh.com, by Neil McIntosh &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Marking up the NUJ's new media verdict</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 21:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] - the one that prompted Roy Greenslade&#8217;s departure from the union, and the scorn of many others. This time out, Jeremy Dear&#8217;s foreward sets the right tone from the off by making a proper [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] - the one that prompted Roy Greenslade&#8217;s departure from the union, and the scorn of many others. This time out, Jeremy Dear&#8217;s foreward sets the right tone from the off by making a proper [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Press Gazette Blogs - Fleet Street 2.0 &#187; The NUJ Commission on Multimedia Working: reading the report</title>
		<link>http://blogs.pressgazette.co.uk/fleetstreet/2007/10/19/nuj-multi-media-commission-publishers-dont-understand-the-web/#comment-92022</link>
		<dc:creator>Press Gazette Blogs - Fleet Street 2.0 &#187; The NUJ Commission on Multimedia Working: reading the report</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 10:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is the final version of the document that caused a bit of a furore back in October when excerpts were published in the union&#8217;s in-house magazine alongside a comment piece, provocatively entitled &#8220;Web 2.0 is rubbish&#8220;, by Commission [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is the final version of the document that caused a bit of a furore back in October when excerpts were published in the union&#8217;s in-house magazine alongside a comment piece, provocatively entitled &#8220;Web 2.0 is rubbish&#8220;, by Commission [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Does the NUJ understand the internet? &#171; Reportr.net</title>
		<link>http://blogs.pressgazette.co.uk/fleetstreet/2007/10/19/nuj-multi-media-commission-publishers-dont-understand-the-web/#comment-78578</link>
		<dc:creator>Does the NUJ understand the internet? &#171; Reportr.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 19:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The details are in the current issue of the NUJ magazine, The Journalist. But you can get an idea of what it says from this posting on the UK Press Gazette. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The NUJ fuss - now I&#8217;m spitting &#171; Online Journalism Blog</title>
		<link>http://blogs.pressgazette.co.uk/fleetstreet/2007/10/19/nuj-multi-media-commission-publishers-dont-understand-the-web/#comment-78463</link>
		<dc:creator>The NUJ fuss - now I&#8217;m spitting &#171; Online Journalism Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 15:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 31, 2007   I&#8217;ve held back from commenting on the NUJ&#8217;s initial remarks on multimedia working but a call for reaction to Donnacha DeLong&#8217;s accompanying piece on the NUJ New Media mailing [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 31, 2007   I&#8217;ve held back from commenting on the NUJ&#8217;s initial remarks on multimedia working but a call for reaction to Donnacha DeLong&#8217;s accompanying piece on the NUJ New Media mailing [...]</p>
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		<title>By: johninnit</title>
		<link>http://blogs.pressgazette.co.uk/fleetstreet/2007/10/19/nuj-multi-media-commission-publishers-dont-understand-the-web/#comment-78297</link>
		<dc:creator>johninnit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes and no. The conversation will no doubt be a pretty high priority for NUJ comms when the Commission has all its evidence to report on, and knows the full story (and any advocacy campaign work) to draw out of it. I don't think they were wrong to give their members a sneak peek of the work in progress though, as so many have been feeding into this. 
Agreed though, I'd like to see a higher profile from the union in engaging with the new media commentariat, though the union is its members, and a lot of those have been getting stuck in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes and no. The conversation will no doubt be a pretty high priority for NUJ comms when the Commission has all its evidence to report on, and knows the full story (and any advocacy campaign work) to draw out of it. I don&#8217;t think they were wrong to give their members a sneak peek of the work in progress though, as so many have been feeding into this.<br />
Agreed though, I&#8217;d like to see a higher profile from the union in engaging with the new media commentariat, though the union is its members, and a lot of those have been getting stuck in.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Stabe</title>
		<link>http://blogs.pressgazette.co.uk/fleetstreet/2007/10/19/nuj-multi-media-commission-publishers-dont-understand-the-web/#comment-78293</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Stabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 13:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@johninnit - I think it is pretty inexplicable. 

The Journalist may be a membership publication, but it is also an advocacy publication that should be trying to reach as wide an audience as possible. 

It should probably also show some awareness of the way participating in the conversation among journalists in the blogosphere can augment its reporting.

This conversation could have started out on The Journalist's own site instead of being passed around a number of unaffiliated blogs, including this one and Donnecha DeLong's, which are doing nothing more than making material from the publication available to those who want to participate in the conversation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@johninnit - I think it is pretty inexplicable. </p>
<p>The Journalist may be a membership publication, but it is also an advocacy publication that should be trying to reach as wide an audience as possible. </p>
<p>It should probably also show some awareness of the way participating in the conversation among journalists in the blogosphere can augment its reporting.</p>
<p>This conversation could have started out on The Journalist&#8217;s own site instead of being passed around a number of unaffiliated blogs, including this one and Donnecha DeLong&#8217;s, which are doing nothing more than making material from the publication available to those who want to participate in the conversation.</p>
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		<title>By: johninnit</title>
		<link>http://blogs.pressgazette.co.uk/fleetstreet/2007/10/19/nuj-multi-media-commission-publishers-dont-understand-the-web/#comment-78291</link>
		<dc:creator>johninnit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 13:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not *entirely* inexplicably - It is a member magazine after all, and part of what we pay our subs for, so I wouldn't necessarily want to force them put it all up for free ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not *entirely* inexplicably - It is a member magazine after all, and part of what we pay our subs for, so I wouldn&#8217;t necessarily want to force them put it all up for free ;)</p>
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		<title>By: ABC Digital Futures &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Journalism&#8217;s digital age of discontent</title>
		<link>http://blogs.pressgazette.co.uk/fleetstreet/2007/10/19/nuj-multi-media-commission-publishers-dont-understand-the-web/#comment-78276</link>
		<dc:creator>ABC Digital Futures &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Journalism&#8217;s digital age of discontent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 10:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] more on this at PressGazette.co.uk and at Shane Richmond&#8217;s blog at [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ABC Digital Futures &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Journalism struggles in the new digital age</title>
		<link>http://blogs.pressgazette.co.uk/fleetstreet/2007/10/19/nuj-multi-media-commission-publishers-dont-understand-the-web/#comment-78275</link>
		<dc:creator>ABC Digital Futures &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Journalism struggles in the new digital age</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 10:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] more on this at PressGazette.co.uk and at Shane Richmond&#8217;s blog at [...]</description>
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		<title>By: SvD &#187; Reklam &#38; Medier</title>
		<link>http://blogs.pressgazette.co.uk/fleetstreet/2007/10/19/nuj-multi-media-commission-publishers-dont-understand-the-web/#comment-78118</link>
		<dc:creator>SvD &#187; Reklam &#38; Medier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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