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@Society of Editors: Google News and 85 years of video on your iPod

Posted by Martin Stabe on 7 November 2006 at 11:12
Tags: 18 Doughty Street, Google, Guardian, Journalism

Asked to examine what the media will look like in 2020, Google News’ product manager Nathan Stoll says a major factor in the democratisation of media is the plummeting cost of online storage.

Storage capacity doubles every 13 months, he says, so by 2020 an iPod like device would have enough capacity to hold 85 years of video, more than has ever been created until now.

Stoll stresses that Google is a technology company rather than a content producer. A symbiotic relationship with newspapers and other producers of editorial content is essential for its business to work.

“Without a healthy base of publishers, there won’t be a base of high quality content for search engine users,” he said.

One way to ensure the existance of this sort of a vibrant media ecosysten, Stoll says, is to  reward and encourage high-quality content. In response to suggestions from newspaper editors, Stoll says, Google is working to improve Google News’ results to reward the originators of original journalism
But in the Q&A session, Guardian editor Alan Rusbridger said: “Nobody can decide wether Google is friend or enemy. It’s best to keep an open mind about it.”

Outgoing Society of Editors president Charles McGhee says the assembled journalists have let Stoll off the hook about potentially demanding revenue-sharing, as suggested by Andrew Neil on Sunday night.

Stoll responds that Google works with content producers in three ways:

  1. Giving them choice about whether to participate, using robots.txt to opt out or opting in when they have a subscription wall;
  2. Fair dealing: only using headlines to drive traffic to content producers while licencing content that need to be used as a whole, such as the maps on Google Maps; and
  3. Helping publishers build sustainable businesses around the traffic driven to the m by Google users.

McGhee is unimpressed, and points out that the Belgian papers attempted to opt out and demand licencing with their lawsuit against Google. Stoll replies that there are many misunderstandings about the Belgian case and that Google is still talking to the Belgian papers.

Moderator Alistair Stewart points out that newspapers have very little leverage with Google. Alan Rusbridger agrees, saying that “Google will only shake in their boots if all the world’s publishers got together on this”.

As the converation continues, the editors express their concern about how journalism will be paid for when it is disaggregated by tools like Google. Rusbridger looks at Stoll down the table and draws laughs when he quips: “Believe me, you don’t want Polly Toynbee’s wage bill!”

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Additional links for Wednesday

Posted by Martin Stabe on 11 October 2006 at 13:39
Tags: 18 Doughty Street, Blogs, Daily Telegraph, Guardian Unlimited, Journalism, Podcasting, Telegraph.co.uk

  • The First Post: The spin man takes on the Binman
    Benjamin Pell, aka “Benjie the Binman”, is back in the news. Apparently these days he spends most days in the High Court, “exercising his legal right of access to documents produced in open court”.
  • Cybersoc: Would Guido really ‘not get out of bed’ for £21k in blog ads?
    Robin Hamman challenges blogger Guido Fawkes’ assertion (in this parish) that he would not get out of bed for the pay be
  • Cybersoc: Guardian looking for a discussion moderator
    Guardian head of blogging Kevin Anderson needs a moderator to look after Comment Is Free comments for a few weeks. An unenviable task, no doubt.
  • Buzzmachine: Shoot the geeks
    Jeff Jarvis is unimpressed with last night’s debut of 18 Doughty Street, because of their use of “needlessly complicated” software technology.
  • Frank Barnako’s Media Blog: 3 best categories for your podcasts
    Frank Barnako at Marketwatch tracks down a study showing the best ways to make money from podcasts: talk about family, science or games.
  • Editor’s Weblog: Telegraph to rival iTunes?
    Telegraph.co.uk is launching a music downloading site, based on its Perfect Playlist.

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Additional links for Tuesday

Posted by Martin Stabe on 10 October 2006 at 19:57
Tags: 18 Doughty Street, Blogs, Daily Telegraph, Digg, E-paper, IPTV, Journalism, Sunday Telegraph, Telegraph.co.uk, Wikis

  • Virtual Economics: Exploding the myth of the read/write web
    Seamus McCauly looks at the latest evidence of “participation inequality” — the fact that a tiny number of heavy users produce most of the material on user-generated and interactive web sites
  • Shane Richmond: News from nowhere (part I and part II)
    Telegraph.co.uk’s news editor looks at the problems that the newspaper faces in the age of e-paper and unbundled content in the first part of a must-read essay. Part II has some recommended solutions.
  • Dan Gillmor frets that “most won’t listen” to Doc Searls’ list of 10 suggestions for online newspapers. Maybe in America — but isn’t most of what Searls suggested rapidly becoming the conventional wisdom in (most) British newsrooms? Besides, the most radical idea about what the web can do for journalism— Adrian Holovaty’s “news as structured data” theory — was missing from the list(s) of suggestions.
  • Writing in the Los Angeles Times, Susan D. Moeller and Moisés Naím remind everyone what really matters while all eyes are on Google and YouTube: “The fascination with the transformational effect of all this makes it easy to forget what is essential to the information process: traditional ‘old media’ messengers such as Anna Politkovskaya.”
  • 18 Doughty Street launches tonight at 8pm.

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